Posts by Lee Elder

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what year was the blood liason commitee started and was it really put into place to help get ones to take blood, fractions and hemopure?

by Crazyguy in

was it really put up to help doctors and patients deal with the blood issue or to talk more jws in to taking fractions components and hemopure?.

Lee Elder

It is difficult to know the precise motivation for setting the committees up but we can speculate that the initial purpose was to assist Jehovah's Witnesses in locating physicians were were supportive of providing alternative "non-blood" therapy as well as to assist physicians in learning how to treat Jehovah's Witnesses without forbidden blood products. The use of blood serum, clotting factors and albumin predate the HLC arrangement.

HLC's will typically be summoned when local elders become aware of congregation members who are running into difficutly obtaining non-blood alternative therapy. They have also come to be the "front line" for educating JW's about the acceptability of various blood products or procedures that JW's may use with the WTS blessing. Like all elders, including the Hospital Visitation Groups, they will feel compelled and duty bound to report any knowledge of deviation from current WT policy which will lead to judicial investigation and potential disassociation with the accompanied shunning.

Lee Elder

AJWRB

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The Watchtower on Blood Serum

by Lee Elder in

the watchtower on blood serum.

documents 6 reversalsin 20 years from 1958-1978. http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-blood-serum it is difficult to understand how anyone could possibly continueto believe that god is directing these men after readingthese published statements.

education is the key.

Lee Elder

The Watchtower on Blood Serum. Documents 6 reversals in 20 years from 1958-1978. http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-blood-serum It is difficult to understand how anyone could possibly continue to believe that God is directing these men after reading these published statements. Education is the key. Lee

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The Watchtower on Albumin

by Lee Elder in

new article:.

http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-albumin.

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Lee Elder

New Article:

http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-albumin

Lee

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blood, doctors, hospitals and children?

by Crazyguy in

i have several children and my wife and i before i woke up informed the local emergency hospital where we have taken a couple of the kids that we do not wish any blood.

my wife has also informed the local clinic where she takes the kids for small issues and small emergencies the same thing.

i know that here in the state's if a child needs blood the hospital will get a court order.

Lee Elder

If you have children, are you sure that they agree with and can explain the Bible – based stand on transfusions? Do they truly believe this stand to be God’s will? Are they convinced that to violate God’s law would be so serious that it could put at risk a Christian’s prospect for everlasting life? Wise parents will review these matters with their children, whether they be very young or almost adults. Parents may hold practice sessions in which each youth faces questions that might be posed by a judge or a hospital official. The goal is not to have a youth repeat by rote selected facts or answers. It is more important that they know what they believe, and why. Of course, at a court hearing, the parents or others might present information about the risks of blood and the availability of alternative therapies. But what a judge or an official would likely seek to learn from speaking with our children is whether they maturely understand their situation and options and also whether they have their own values and firm convictions.

- The Watchtower 06/15/1991 p. 18 Emphasis added

How strenuously should a Christian resist a blood transfusion that has been ordered or authorized by a court? God’s law must be obeyed!…if a court – authorized transfusion seemed likely, a Christian might choose to avoid being accessible for such a violation of God’s law….If a Christian did put forth very strenuous efforts to avoid a violation of God’s law on blood, authorities might consider him a law-breaker or make him liable to prosecution. If punishment did result, the Christian could view it as suffering for the sake of righteousness.

- The Watchtower 06/15/1991 p. 31 Emphasis added

Until they retract this kind of advice what else can be expected of obedient Jehovah's Witnesses?

Lee

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The Watchtower on Science and Medicine

by Lee Elder in

new article that will help you understand the watchtower's thinking.

during the era when it formulated its blood ban:.

http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-science-and-medicine.

Lee Elder

New article that will help you understand the Watchtower's thinking

during the era when it formulated its blood ban:

http://ajwrb.org/science/the-watchtower-on-science-and-medicine

Lee

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Blood, Vaccines and Organ Transplants

by Lee Elder in

the database still needs updating but that can bedone later.

if there are any important earlier quotesi have missed, please let me know.

http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/blood-vaccines-and-organ-transplants lee

Lee Elder

The database still needs updating but that can be done later. If there are any important earlier quotes I have missed, please let me know. http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/blood-vaccines-and-organ-transplants Lee

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Watchtower No Blood Card

by Lee Elder in

new article on ajwrb:.

http://ajwrb.org/medicine/watchtower-no-blood-card.

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Lee Elder

The references regarding a significant percentage of Jehovah's Witnesses accepting blood were added to the article and I am posting them here as well.

Lee

For these reasons, we believe that it is incumbent upon emergency room physicians to verbally verify the level of commitment to the current Watchtower policy. Especially in view of the fact that it is well-known a significant percentage of Jehovah’s Witness secretly oppose the policy and feel coerced into carrying the blood card or risk exposure as apostates with subsequent shunning.1,2,3,4

References

1-Findley LJ, Redstone PM (March 1982). “Blood transfusion in adult Jehovah’s Witnesses. A case study of one congregation”. Arch Intern Med. 142(3): 606–607. doi:10.1001/archinte. te.142.3.606.
PMID 7065795.

2-Kaaron Benson, H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute Cancer Control Journal, Vol. 2, No. 4, November/December 1995, “Therefore, while most adult Jehovah’s Witness patients were unwilling to accept blood for themselves, most Jehovah’s Witness parents permitted transfusions for their minor children, and many of the young adult patients also were willing to accept transfusions for themselves.”

3-Gyamfi C, Berkowitz RL (September 2004). “Responses by pregnant Jehovah’s Witnesses on health care proxies”. Obstet Gynecol 104 (3): 541–4. doi:10.1097/01.AOG.0000135276.25886.8e. PMID 15339766. “This review refutes the commonly held belief that all Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to accept blood or any of its products. In this population of pregnant women, the majority were willing to accept some form of blood or blood products.”

4-Empirical data suggest to us that the current level of dissent may be significantly higher. We base this upon the conversations we have had with Emergency Department Physicians and Anesthesiologists at medical conventions.

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